What do you think will be the next Disney Park to be built?

[John park hopper]

Please no new parks improve the 2 we have in the USA

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What do I think? They can't maintain what they have. Why would they build another?

…oh sure…go with the OBVIOUS answer…borrrr-ing

 

[marni1971]

as a side note its wild to me that it costs me the same amount for 3 days at DLP as 2 weeks in WDW.

3 days at Santa Fe is more than 2 weeks at an All Star plus 14 day hoppers?

 

[BasiltheBatLord]

Wrap article from yesterday saying that Shanghai 2nd gate ("Project Atlas") is "in the planning stages" and that TDR third gate ("DisneySky") is "back on the drawing board."

No idea how real this is, but Martin seemed to confirm on the Shanghai subforum that the Project Atlas codename is legit.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Wrap article from yesterday saying that Shanghai 2nd gate ("Project Atlas") is "in the planning stages" and that TDR third gate ("DisneySky") is "back on the drawing board."

No idea how real this is, but Martin seemed to confirm on the Shanghai subforum that the Project Atlas codename is legit.

WDI are the only people to not know that most what they do is busy work

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

It’s absolutely Shanghai and it will be announced this year

 

[Ayla]

3 days at Santa Fe is more than 2 weeks at an All Star plus 14 day hoppers?

Yeah, that seems like an exaggeration.

 

[Coaster Lover]

It’d be interesting to see a park in Australia, but I have no clue if…
A. That’s possible
B. There’s a market
C. There would be a large enough return for it to be worthwhile

The state of Florida has ~23.6 million people alone, gets ~131 million domestic tourists per year, and gets ~12.2 million international tourists all while being 170,000 sq km.

The country of Australia has ~27.5 million people and gets ~8.3 million international tourists all while being 7.69 million sq km (nearly the same size of the contiguous United States). The attendance is further diminished if you don't count the west coast population which is essentially the same distance from the east coast (where most of the population is) as a flight from Disney World to Disney Land.

None of Australia's current amusement parks rank in the Top 25 parks world wide for attendance. None of Australia's current amusement parks rank in the Top 20 parks in the AsiaPac region for attendance. The biggest park in Australia (Dreamworld) recorded 1.5 million guests in 2025. Disney's least attended park (Disney Studios in Paris) had ~5.5 million guests in 2024. Disney freaked out when Disneyland Paris only saw ~7 million guests opening year.

Australia has neither the local population nor the international tourists to justify the cost to build a Disney Park.

 

[Tom P.]

The absolute certainty always expressed here that a fifth park at WDW will never happen makes me feel confident that it will, indeed, happen one day. Though I don't see it happening soon.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The absolute certainty always expressed here that a fifth park at WDW will never happen makes me feel confident that it will, indeed, happen one day. Though I don't see it happening soon.

There’s no market…it can’t happen unless a trillionaire makes one for vanity

It can never increase profits

Money problem discovered when dak opened

 

[Tom P.]

There’s no market…it can’t happen unless a trillionaire makes one for vanity

It can never increase profits

Money problem discovered when dak opened

How can there be no market for an additional park, yet there is clearly a market for additional parks down the road at Universal?

Also, while there may not be a market specifically for someone to visit five parks in one vacation, I can see there being a market in people who aren't interested in one of the present parks, particularly Animal Kingdom, but who might extend their vacations if there were another option in place of that.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

How can there be no market for an additional park, yet there is clearly a market for additional parks down the road at Universal?

Also, while there may not be a market specifically for someone to visit five parks in one vacation, I can see there being a market in people who aren't interested in one of the present parks, particularly Animal Kingdom, but who might extend their vacations if there were another option in place of that.

Because what they discovered after dak is there is a 7 day “glass ceiling” on vacations for most of their market

Universal isn’t at that…but wdw has been. Don’t you find it odd that Disney has basically stopped hotel construction?…took a water park offline and reduced the avail of the others?…dismantled the boardwalk entertainment?…let wide world just become a Covention space? Closed PI and turned it into a Florida outlet mall?

None of these things are one offs.

There is a business angle to it.

Park cannibalization. More overhead is going to disperse a fairly fixed crowd. And that was before bobby shrunk the pool…

 

[Pizza Moon]

1.Abu Dhabi
2.Shangai 2nd Gate
3.Paris 3rd Gate
4.Orlando 5th Gate
5.California 3rd Gate
6.A new one located in other coutry.


Theorically ADhabi will be next, but with current inestability on the zone I think the project can be delayed or even cancelled any time.

Abu Dhabi 100% is going to happen still.

We know Shanghai’s 2nd gate is also just as much along. So those both open early next decade probably.

As for the rest, my guess is we see a new park at Tokyo probably next decade, Paris probably gets delayed again, though we’ll see it just depends on the success of DAW and they definitely need a new ride at DLP too? And DisneylandForward or whatever happens first alongside massive WDW parks before a new gate would make sense.

My guess is you’d probably see either a third American Disney resort or 3rd and 5th parks at their own existing gates circa 2040, whatever makes the ROI at the time.

 

[FettFan]

1.Abu Dhabi
2.Shangai 2nd Gate
3.Paris 3rd Gate
4.Orlando 5th Gate
5.California 3rd Gate
6.A new one located in other coutry.


Theorically ADhabi will be next, but with current inestability on the zone I think the project can be delayed or even cancelled any time.

My personal guess is a 2nd gate at Hong Kong.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

How can there be no market for an additional park, yet there is clearly a market for additional parks down the road at Universal?

Also, while there may not be a market specifically for someone to visit five parks in one vacation, I can see there being a market in people who aren't interested in one of the present parks, particularly Animal Kingdom, but who might extend their vacations if there were another option in place of that.

Walt Disney World is four theme parks and two water parks.

Until last year Universal was just two theme parks and one water park.

Universal still has room to grow while still making a vacation that gets you to every park realistic. Disney does not. Some people already skip one of the four on the trips. Five would be too much.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

I really hope it’s Brazil.

Then I can go buy a trendy backpack and a neon green flag and chant in all the lines.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Park cannibalization.

Yes. I agree. They very well may start eating the guests.

 

[Pizza Moon]

Because what they discovered after dak is there is a 7 day “glass ceiling” on vacations for most of their market

Universal isn’t at that…but wdw has been. Don’t you find it odd that Disney has basically stopped hotel construction?…took a water park offline and reduced the avail of the others?…dismantled the boardwalk entertainment?…let wide world just become a Covention space? Closed PI and turned it into a Florida outlet mall?

None of these things are one offs.

There is a business angle to it.

Park cannibalization. More overhead is going to disperse a fairly fixed crowd. And that was before bobby shrunk the pool…

There’s not enough new things to do to justify building a ton of new hotels (and they do build them they’re just mostly DVC that’s much cheaper to do since they can milk loyal customers that would end up at the better themed deluxe hotels anyway).

Most of WDW’s “expansions” were replacements over the past decade, there’s no reason they blew up as much of HWS and EPCOT as they did. It just made no sense, never did, never will. But something like Dinoland does to me, but because they didn’t already do Indiana Jones, or add a ride after Pandora, taking an entire land offline in an under built park is going to make it even less appealing to stay open late for guests.

Why would you when you could spend it as a nice hotel if you’re at one, go to Disney Springs, or park hop to MK? That’s the issue.

Universal could add a new park tomorrow and while obviously it’d be too soon, they eventually could. Disney could’ve easily built a new 5th gate instead of Universal. Imagine a world where they did Galaxy’s Edge right and they kept GMR and streets of America and Star Wars weekends. Doesn’t an after 10pm close start to make a lot more sense for that park? I think it does. DCA has fundamentally more going on than Hollywood, and it thus supports longer park hours, easily. It even feels more vibrant later at night, kind of like EPCOT does.

AK’s issue is it’s always been severely under built ride wise in an exceedingly painful way. Even after Tropical Americas opens it still will need more to do, and I’m not just saying that as a fan, it legitimately needs more if it wants to stay open late for years on end. Hollywood has the same issue except in the other direction where it needs more areas to explore, and less of a focus on rides, but the queues are so bad it needs more to at least help spread crowds from Slinky, I’d hope.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

There’s not enough new things to do to justify building a ton of new hotels (and they do build them they’re just mostly DVC that’s much cheaper to do since they can milk loyal customers that would end up at the better themed deluxe hotels anyway).

Most of WDW’s “expansions” were replacements over the past decade, there’s no reason they blew up as much of HWS and EPCOT as they did. It just made no sense, never did, never will. But something like Dinoland does to me, but because they didn’t already do Indiana Jones, or add a ride after Pandora, taking an entire land offline in an under built park is going to make it even less appealing to stay open late for guests.

Why would you when you could spend it as a nice hotel if you’re at one, go to Disney Springs, or park hop to MK? That’s the issue.

Universal could add a new park tomorrow and while obviously it’d be too soon, they eventually could. Disney could’ve easily built a new 5th gate instead of Universal. Imagine a world where they did Galaxy’s Edge right and they kept GMR and streets of America and Star Wars weekends. Doesn’t an after 10pm close start to make a lot more sense for that park? I think it does. DCA has fundamentally more going on than Hollywood, and it thus supports longer park hours, easily. It even feels more vibrant later at night, kind of like EPCOT does.

AK’s issue is it’s always been severely under built ride wise in an exceedingly painful way. Even after Tropical Americas opens it still will need more to do, and I’m not just saying that as a fan, it legitimately needs more if it wants to stay open late for years on end. Hollywood has the same issue except in the other direction where it needs more areas to explore, and less of a focus on rides, but the queues are so bad it needs more to at least help spread crowds from Slinky, I’d hope.

I already gave you the answer boss…this isn’t the middle school debate team.

If you want to argue it…go ahead…but that what the numbers say


You already saw how far they were willing to go for a “new gate”

It was a disastrous boutique hotel. Biggest failure in Walt Disney parks history and there isn’t another challenger

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

There’s not enough new things to do to justify building a ton of new hotels (and they do build them they’re just mostly DVC that’s much cheaper to do since they can milk loyal customers that would end up at the better themed deluxe hotels anyway).

Most of WDW’s “expansions” were replacements over the past decade, there’s no reason they blew up as much of HWS and EPCOT as they did. It just made no sense, never did, never will. But something like Dinoland does to me, but because they didn’t already do Indiana Jones, or add a ride after Pandora, taking an entire land offline in an under built park is going to make it even less appealing to stay open late for guests.

Why would you when you could spend it as a nice hotel if you’re at one, go to Disney Springs, or park hop to MK? That’s the issue.

Universal could add a new park tomorrow and while obviously it’d be too soon, they eventually could. Disney could’ve easily built a new 5th gate instead of Universal. Imagine a world where they did Galaxy’s Edge right and they kept GMR and streets of America and Star Wars weekends. Doesn’t an after 10pm close start to make a lot more sense for that park? I think it does. DCA has fundamentally more going on than Hollywood, and it thus supports longer park hours, easily. It even feels more vibrant later at night, kind of like EPCOT does.

AK’s issue is it’s always been severely under built ride wise in an exceedingly painful way. Even after Tropical Americas opens it still will need more to do, and I’m not just saying that as a fan, it legitimately needs more if it wants to stay open late for years on end. Hollywood has the same issue except in the other direction where it needs more areas to explore, and less of a focus on rides, but the queues are so bad it needs more to at least help spread crowds from Slinky, I’d hope.

Disney is not adding a 5th gate to WDW until we’re all either old or dead. I hate to agree with Sir Walter on anything but he is 100% right here. It is not going to happen because they want to maintain the ideal 7 day trip envelope and a 5th park would upset that balance.

They will expand the 4 parks, but 5th gate is not happening.