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Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Now Open!

Pizza Moon

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You know who makes parks that are good for families with little kids? Disney. Quite simply...Universal is not that.
Well seeing how Disney is deliberately making HWS its “thrill/teens” park to compete with Universal, Universal should also try appealing more to families.

Not having a height restriction on Yoshi, is too easy.

Pure insanity to not just make a better attempt at least on the rides that are tame.

They need a Pirates type of ride with no height restriction too.

If you’re gonna make a kiddie ride that’s terrible like Yoshi with no appeal for anyone else, you need to let its target demos actually on.
 

Pizza Moon

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Every attraction had a 100+ minute wait. It wasn’t that fun being there at that point.
Monsters and Stardust didn’t.

There’s no way you can justify not re-riding them—though maybe you did.

There’s also just no world in which you have to decide “I’m not exploring all the beautiful shops and restaurants and instead am just gonna waste my money” and leave. The park itself is worth just exploring and hanging out it. Sorry you weren’t able to truly appreciate it because there’s so much beauty I feel like you overlooked.

😂
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
Monsters and Stardust didn’t.

There’s no way you can justify not re-riding them—though maybe you did.

There’s also just no world in which you have to decide “I’m not exploring all the beautiful shops and restaurants and instead am just gonna waste my money” and leave. The park itself is worth just exploring and hanging out it. Sorry you weren’t able to truly appreciate it because there’s so much beauty I feel like you overlooked.

😂

He said Stardust was closed.
 

dmc493

Well-Known Member
My visit to Epic was complete around 3PM too. Granted that was with Express, but I had done all major attractions and shows plus eating and relaxing in Celestial Park. That was with repeat rides on Ministry (I roped dropped), Monsters, and Wing Gliders as well. I have the same caveat, that Stardust was closed when I was there, but even with that I'm not sure I would've been compelled to stay late. With all this I felt I had gotten my money's worth

Easily could've gone to Epcot afterwards and had a great time 😉
 

JT3000

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As far as I know yes and for when the land is at max capacity and you get a return time.

"Pay for the full park, only get access to the parts that aren't too crowded! Only at Universal Epic Universe!"

Universal Orlando GIF by Universal Destinations & Experiences
 

Pizza Moon

Well-Known Member
My visit to Epic was complete around 3PM too. Granted that was with Express, but I had done all major attractions and shows plus eating and relaxing in Celestial Park. That was with repeat rides on Ministry (I roped dropped), Monsters, and Wing Gliders as well. I have the same caveat, that Stardust was closed when I was there, but even with that I'm not sure I would've been compelled to stay late. With all this I felt I had gotten my money's worth

Easily could've gone to Epcot afterwards and had a great time 😉
I roped dropped Epic, did every single ride in the park, and had many re-rides, plus a really nice dinner at Atlantic. Felt it needed a firework show, but the park feels like a step up from all the others in Orlando. The attention to detail and scale of said detail is only really comparable to Tokyo DisneySea.

Was leisurely and action packed too. Didn’t feel rushed, I genuinely got to just enjoy the park as a “park.”

Got to explore every nook and cranny. Every detail I wanted to see I made a point to check out.

I could’ve spent another full day there, and given that a 1-day Epic ticket is MK priced, I couldn’t imagine just going to MK, and then just leaving mid-day. Like, for a longer trip or cheaper per-day passes sure, but blowing that much money and not even truly exploring the park, is a choice, even if it’s imperfect, nothing is flawless.

EPCOT, I was there recently, and without riding Guardians man the park feels so empty outside of World Showcase, but there’s basically like no rides (and some of the worst at WDW are at EPCOT like Nemo and Figment), so I don’t know how you could find more to do at EPCOT than Epic, if you’re only looking for rides.

I also think Express Pass is awesome obviously for the experience it’s obviously worth it if you have infinite money, but it’s not necessary for most people, as you showed, you probably could’ve just saved that money and flesh out your day.

It isn’t hard to use single rider for Ministry and Mario Kart either, which means 2/3 biggest waits are pretty reasonable.

I feel like people aren’t doing Epic right and that’s the perception gap with a ton of those who visit😂
 
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dmc493

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EPCOT, I was there recently, and without riding Guardians man the park feels so empty outside of World Showcase, but there’s basically like no rides (and some of the worst at WDW are at EPCOT like Nemo and Figment), so I don’t know how you could find more to do at EPCOT than Epic, if you’re only looking for rides.
Well not sure why you would disregard 50% of Epcot since it has food, shows, rides, and some of the best placemaking in theme park design.... And I'm not only looking for rides. I shop, do rides, go see shows, grab snacks, explore the detail of different lands and lots more. And as much as Future World was massacred over the last few years, I completely disagree with you that it feels empty - there's an entire aquarium, my favorite rides in the Land (plus a lovely lil show), single rider Test Track, plus my favorite ride at the resort (SSE, yes even in its current form). I don't need Guardians for a trip to Epcot to be enjoyable

Could I have found ways to spend more time at Epic? Sure. But I did more than just go ride to ride during my visit.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Universal should also try appealing more to families.
No they shouldn’t. You aren’t successful by trying to emulate the competition. You differentiate yourself. They don’t need to be Disney. We already have Disney.
If you’re gonna make a kiddie ride that’s terrible like Yoshi with no appeal for anyone else, you need to let its target demos actuall
We have discussed this wasn’t built specifically for epic. It was built for the Japanese market with Nintendo having a lot of control over the process.
 

AidenRodriguez731

Well-Known Member
I roped dropped Epic, did every single ride in the park, and had many re-rides, plus a really nice dinner at Atlantic. Felt it needed a firework show, but the park feels like a step up from all the others in Orlando. The attention to detail and scale of said detail is only really comparable to Tokyo DisneySea.

Was leisurely and action packed too. Didn’t feel rushed, I genuinely got to just enjoy the park as a “park.”

Got to explore every nook and cranny. Every detail I wanted to see I made a point to check out.

I could’ve spent another full day there, and given that a 1-day Epic ticket is MK priced, I couldn’t imagine just going to MK, and then just leaving mid-day. Like, for a longer trip or cheaper per-day passes sure, but blowing that much money and not even truly exploring the park, is a choice, even if it’s imperfect, nothing is flawless.

EPCOT, I was there recently, and without riding Guardians man the park feels so empty outside of World Showcase, but there’s basically like no rides (and some of the worst at WDW are at EPCOT like Nemo and Figment), so I don’t know how you could find more to do at EPCOT than Epic, if you’re only looking for rides.

I also think Express Pass is awesome obviously for the experience it’s obviously worth it if you have infinite money, but it’s not necessary for most people, as you showed, you probably could’ve just saved that money and flesh out your day.

It isn’t hard to use single rider for Ministry and Mario Kart either, which means 2/3 biggest waits are pretty reasonable.

I feel like people aren’t doing Epic right and that’s the perception gap with a ton of those who visit😂
Tbh Epic feels pretty empty without Mario, How to Train Your Dragon, and Monsters Unleashed.

It's like just 2 coasters, a decent dark ride, and a bad flat ride.
 

Pizza Moon

Well-Known Member
If he did, he would know it's GSAT not GSTAT, and that he'd be in violation of the employee handbook, as well as potentially any NDAs he signed.
I talked to people who worked on Mario Kart. They were disappointed after Hollywood’s GSTAT came in. You don’t have to believe me, but deep down I know that posters here that do know this information know I’m not BSing.

If I’m called out by one more poster for an effing typo I’m going to scream.
 

AidenRodriguez731

Well-Known Member
I talked to people who worked on Mario Kart. They were disappointed after Hollywood’s GSTAT came in. You don’t have to believe me, but deep down I know that posters here that do know this information know I’m not BSing.

If I’m called out by one more poster for an effing typo I’m going to scream.
Well the good news is you weren't accused of AI this time so win/win?
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
I talked to people who worked on Mario Kart. They were disappointed after Hollywood’s GSTAT came in. You don’t have to believe me, but deep down I know that posters here that do know this information know I’m not BSing.

If I’m called out by one more poster for an effing typo I’m going to scream.
They may or may not know that. But I know plenty to have been able to call you out before :)

And it's GSAT, not GSTAT.

It stands for Guest SATisfaction score.
 

Pizza Moon

Well-Known Member
They may or may not know that. But I know plenty to have been able to call you out before :)

And it's GSAT, not GSTAT.

It stands for Guest SATisfaction score.
I’ve always used them interchangeably, never really thought about it, thanks for the correction.

But in any case, I don’t really care if people “call me out,” as any time that happens it’s just people wrongly thinking I’m using AI, that I don’t want diversity in movies, or some other random straw man instead of focusing on the argument itself, and yes, Mario Kart is not loved by guests. I thoroughly enjoy it, but I understand why: people wanted a Radiator Springs Racers, not a shooter ride.

Ironically, while I tested like 97th percentile for my age in vocabulary I’ve always been horrible at pronunciations, acronyms, and typos

Not dyslexia or anything, but I wonder if it’s my adhd haha, or maybe I’m just dumb.
 

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