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Being a Disney Influencer

JIMINYCR

Well-Known Member
I have encountered a lot of people who were unprofessional in their jobs, and lots of people who were very professional in their hobbies. I don't think you can correlate professionalism and whether it's a job or hobby.
I've had bosses who were very unprofessional and treated their positions as a hobby. Unfortunately some of them got their cushy spots from connections or family ties and they were never held accountable for what they did or didn't do.
The IRS does have criteria that distinguishes Job vs Hobby and not many reach that limit. IMHO many of them mostly are looking for recognition from others for their personal gratification or are hoping for free access to events and other perks.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I've had bosses who were very unprofessional and treated their positions as a hobby. Unfortunately some of them got their cushy spots from connections or family ties and they were never held accountable for what they did or didn't do.
The IRS does have criteria that distinguishes Job vs Hobby and not many reach that limit. IMHO many of them mostly are looking for recognition from others for their personal gratification or are hoping for free access to events and other perks.
Isn’t Being a nepo the world’s oldest profession?
 

JMcMahonEsq

Well-Known Member
That criteria is making a profit for at least 3 of 5 years.
Incorrect. The criteria when judging if something is a business or a hoppy is the intent of the person. Are they intending conduct the activity to make a profit, or for fun. While making a profit for 3 out of 5 years can lead to a presumption of the activity being a business as opposed to a hobby, it is 1) not an unreputable presumptions and 2) not a hard criteria
 

JMcMahonEsq

Well-Known Member
Guess you know more than the IRS :)

“An activity is presumed for profit if it makes a profit in at least three of the last five tax years, including the current year (or at least two of the last seven years for activities that consist primarily of breeding, showing, training or racing horses).”
A simple google search would get you the IRS Fact Sheet memo on this which says:

The Internal Revenue Service reminds taxpayers to follow appropriate guidelines when determining whether an activity is engaged in for profit, such as a business or investment activity, or is engaged in as a hobby.

Internal Revenue Code Section 183 (Activities Not Engaged in for Profit) limits deductions that can be claimed when an activity is not engaged in for profit. IRC 183 is sometimes referred to as the “hobby loss rule."

Taxpayers may need a clearer understanding of what constitutes an activity engaged in for profit and the tax implications of incorrectly treating hobby activities as activities engaged in for profit. This educational fact sheet provides information for determining if an activity qualifies as an activity engaged in for profit and what limitations apply if the activity was not engaged in for profit .

Is your hobby really an activity engaged in for profit?

In general, taxpayers may deduct ordinary and necessary expenses for conducting a trade or business or for the production of income. Trade or business activities and activities engaged in for the production of income are activities engaged in for profit.

The following factors, although not all inclusive, may help you to determine whether your activity is an activity engaged in for profit or a hobby:

• Does the time and effort put into the activity indicate an intention to make a profit?• Do you depend on income from the activity?
• If there are losses, are they due to circumstances beyond your control or did they occur in the start-up phase of the business?
• Have you changed methods of operation to improve profitability?
• Do you have the knowledge needed to carry on the activity as a successful business?
• Have you made a profit in similar activities in the past?
• Does the activity make a profit in some years?
• Do you expect to make a profit in the future from the appreciation of assets used in the activity?

An activity is presumed for profit if it makes a profit in at least three of the last five tax years, including the current year (or at least two of the last seven years for activities that consist primarily of breeding, showing, training or racing horses).
 
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DisneyHead123

Well-Known Member
What is the purpose of distinguishing between a hobby and a for profit activity? I'm assuming so that people cannot write off all kinds of purchases as business expenses after saying "Oh, I hoped to sell my creations"? Because in the reverse scenario (i.e., you make an unexpected profit from what was genuinely supposed to be a hobby - someone offers you $20,000 for a piece of pottery you made because they just love it that much) I can't imagine it would make any difference, right? You make money, you owe the taxes, hobby or no.
 

Pizza Moon

Well-Known Member
Just to point out there’s several versions of online non employee reporting; those who are invited to make authorised content of events. Those who show their face to the camera mostly whilst doing the same. And those who hug the lens and won’t say a bad word. The former promote something they like. The latter hope for something in return in doing what they do.

I know quite a few of the former type and they work extremely hard (believe it or not) for not a huge amount of direct monetary return. There are exceptions but it’s not the rule.

The technology in our pockets has made it possible for anyone to think they can do it.
It really is about the person, as barely anyone can actually do it good, much less commercially, and you have to carve out a niche.

Is it literally just running around having fun in a park, park history, is it for casual audiences (kids? Adults? Families?), more about themed design as an art form, are you a coaster junkie, your own life, theme park news? Personality of course is required for anything.
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
I have folks tell me regularly elsewhere in my life that I should become one of these ‘Influencers’.
I certainly have plenty of knowledge about the Parks, always have something to say about them, and have plenty of opinions on matters.
Seems a given, eh?

But no…I could never play the ‘kiss Disney’s tush’ role.
Nope.
I would tell it like it is, no face to the camera, and give an honest opinion.

Considering some of the things today’s Disney is doing…Mickey would probably prefer I not go that route.
But oh….the fun to be had if I did….tee hee…..

😈

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danlb_2000

Premium Member
Guess you know more than the IRS :)

“An activity is presumed for profit if it makes a profit in at least three of the last five tax years, including the current year (or at least two of the last seven years for activities that consist primarily of breeding, showing, training or racing horses).”

So Amazon.com was just a hobby for it's first 5 years? :)
 

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