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All things Universal Studios Hollywood

J4546

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I'm just speaking for me and my wallet. Universal's recent addition made the park a place I'm far less likely to spend money to visit. Or spend time there when visiting.

But keep chasing 12 year old boys, Universal. I hear they have a ton of money to spend at theme parks...I mean, amusement parks.
I think all theme parks are mostly targeting children, thats pretty much what the parks are for? It doesnt mean we cant enjoy them as adults but when they build these massive rides and attractions at these parks, they are almost always marketed towards children/families with kids, Not so much for 30/40 year olds with no kids. Again not saying we cant enjoy them, Im a 40 year old with no kids, but I also realize I am not the target audience for these parks anymore
 

Professortango1

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I think all theme parks are mostly targeting children, thats pretty much what the parks are for? It doesnt mean we cant enjoy them as adults but when they build these massive rides and attractions at these parks, they are almost always marketed towards children/families with kids, Not so much for 30/40 year olds with no kids. Again not saying we cant enjoy them, Im a 40 year old with no kids, but I also realize I am not the target audience for these parks anymore
All the more reason for themed family experiences over ugly amusement park attractions which only attract teens. This is why Six Flags had a gang problem for quite awhile. You want families, give us fun family experiences, not ugly unthemed coasters messing with the park atmosphere.

And as an adult, I typically act as host when taking my friends' kids out for fun activities. With this coaster, it won't be Universal Hollywood I'm taking them to.
 

eddie104

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And The Mummy (Orlando) is my favourite indoor coaster and is incredibly well themed throughout. Same with Gringotts.
Never said they couldn’t create awesome themed coasters but this IP didn’t call for that.

Sometimes simple is better.

I’m not a fan F&F but it’s a very popular franchise and Universal wanted it represented in the parks.
 

Professortango1

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Never said they couldn’t create awesome themed coasters but this IP didn’t call for that.

Sometimes simple is better.

I’m not a fan F&F but it’s a very popular franchise and Universal wanted it represented in the parks.
They chose the IP. And, as stated previously, the IP can absolutely have a themed coaster experience to put us in the films. They just chose not to because it's easier/cheaper to not. And if you're appealing to teenage boys, then you don't have to try as long as it is "sick, bro."

People keep acting like Universal was forced to give us the best they could do despite all restrictions were choices that they actively chose.

Can't build a themed coaster to F & F? That's a lie. But also, then theme it to something that benefits the park as a whole. They chose this. Nobody said they had to do this other than themselves.
 

eddie104

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They just chose not to because it's easier/cheaper to not
Actually this coaster was probably more on the expensive side considering the amount of work they had to do the hillside. Also California regulations are no joke and that’s probably one of the reasons it’s taking so long to open.

It wasn’t just a simple plop down but required some extra steps. I’m sorry warehouse theming is the best you’re gonna get with this IP.

The queue building seems to provide just that.
 
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Professortango1

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Actually this coaster was probably more on the expensive considering the amount of work they had to do the hillside. Also California regulations are no joke and that’s probably one of the reasons it’s taking so long to open.

It wasn’t just a simple plop down but required some extra steps. I’m sorry warehouse theming is the best you’re gonna get with this IP.

The queue building seems to provide just that.
I'd kill for some warehouse themeing. But so far, it looks like we aren't even getting that. Just retaining walls, dirt, and track.
 

coffeefan

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I'm just speaking for me and my wallet. Universal's recent addition made the park a place I'm far less likely to spend money to visit. Or spend time there when visiting.

But keep chasing 12 year old boys, Universal. I hear they have a ton of money to spend at theme parks...I mean, amusement parks.

When it comes to coasters, theming is one half and ride experience is the other half. While this lacks in theming, the ride experience looks to be top-notch. Ideally, we'd have both, I agree, but like I said I think they can get away with it because it gets an assist from being on location in LA surrounded by views of the valley and studios.
On the other hand, if this were to be built in Anaheim (or in Orlando) it wouldn't benefit from the on location theming assist, and it would be a more glaring issue.
 

Rich T

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I can’t stand the F&F IP, so the less theming this ride (or Orlando’s version) has, the more I’ll like it. I’d rather just enjoy a great coaster’s amazing track engineering and graceful maneuvers than spend one second in that IP’s obnoxious world. 😃
 

J4546

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Sadly they are building an equivalent in USF to replace Rip Ride Rockit.

But the layout is gonna be completely different of course.
Rip ride rocket doesnt exist anymore, they tore it down and are building another FnF coaster which this is more aligned to. I dunno why the hate, it is built on a mostly unused hillside and has cars that are controlled to mimic a drift around turns which will be a fun sensation, esp in the corkscrews. FnF is a huge frachise like it or not, but it deserves a real big ride like this. I do wish it had been dueling coasters like west coast racers or the meteor coaster at epic universe but it is what it is.
 

Rich T

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Thank the lord it was a complete eyesore.

I’m not expecting the new coaster to be any better visually however I would love to be proven wrong.
Intamin built Velocicoaster, which I think is the most stunningly beautiful mostly-bare-steel coaster I’ve ever seen. It is a grand, majestic kinetic sculpture in my eyes, and I’m not being sarcastic. 😄 So, FaF Orlando has that in its favor.

RRR’s hideous, boxy, industrial-looking vertical lift hill is what made that ride look so awful, along with the very prominent mid-course brake structures. The big non-inverting loop and the Citywalk helix looked fine and added visual fun to their respective areas.

So, with FnF being a launch coaster, all it has to do is look graceful where it’s visible to non-riders and it will already be a visual upgrade over RRR. I’m hoping.
 

Rich T

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I think all theme parks are mostly targeting children, thats pretty much what the parks are for? …
No, not all theme parks. It’s a broad spectrum. Magic Kingdom largely targets familes with small kids, while Epcot also wants adults visiting the bars and restaurants around World Showcase. Any park with an intense thrill coaster—usually with a significant height restriction—is heavily targeting teens and adults through age 40 or so. Disposable income is the holy grail. Ideally, park owners would like to attract every adult on Earth who has a bank account.
 

Mr. Sullivan

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Intamin built Velocicoaster, which I think is the most stunningly beautiful mostly-bare-steel coaster I’ve ever seen. It is a grand, majestic kinetic sculpture in my eyes, and I’m not being sarcastic. 😄 So, FaF Orlando has that in its favor.

RRR’s hideous, boxy, industrial-looking vertical lift hill is what made that ride look so awful, along with the very prominent mid-course brake structures. The big non-inverting loop and the Citywalk helix looked fine and added visual fun to their respective areas.

So, with FnF being a launch coaster, all it has to do is look graceful where it’s visible to non-riders and it will already be a visual upgrade over RRR. I’m hoping.
VelociCoaster is indeed a very beautiful coaster. Most of Intamin's coasters are. Where this new coaster may become an issue in Orlando is in the reality that it's a very challenging plot of land to put a coaster in. A lot of what makes coasters so beautiful when they are beautiful is how much breadth they have and imposing of a stature they have. The plot of land they're using in Orlando is incredibly thin and elongated which is going to dictate how the track is shaped and how the layout is...well laid out.

VelociCoaster is beautiful because they had a lot of room to work with and were able to give a lot of really incredible visual impact moments to it as a result. This is a much tighter, limiting space to work in. The spike it's going to have is going to be visually striking to be near the entrance, but I do not foresee it being as good looking as VC is.
 

mickEblu

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Having a Krusty Burger at USH before our passes expire in a couple days and it’s half way decent. How is this possible when just down the escalators they serve an absolute garbage burger at Toads Cafe.
 

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