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What should be the 3rd land at Walt Disney Studios Park?

What should be the 3rd expansion land at Walt Disney studios park?

  • Pandora the world of Avatar

    Votes: 40 33.3%
  • Zootopia

    Votes: 15 12.5%
  • Cars Land

    Votes: 17 14.2%
  • Disney should just build Galaxy’s Edge

    Votes: 24 20.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 24 20.0%

  • Total voters
    120

montydysquith-navarro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Maybe elsewhere (replace Aladdin maybe) but I’d rather the lake aims for more… ambitious projects
Considering the level of ambition we've seen so far for the Studios redevelopment is barely reaching the concrete roof, let alone blue sky, my expectations aren't that high for the Phase 2 expansions (lakeside or otherwise). Prove me wrong though, especially since DLP is the current darling/cash cow of DPEP alongside TDR.
 

cjkeating

Well-Known Member
Considering the level of ambition we've seen so far for the Studios redevelopment is barely reaching the concrete roof, let alone blue sky, my expectations aren't that high for the Phase 2 expansions (lakeside or otherwise). Prove me wrong though, especially since DLP is the current darling/cash cow of DPEP alongside TDR.
Darling of the International Parks segment... DLP is making a profit which is a revelation and more than the Chinese parks are doing but still a tiny $ number and low margin compared to the US parks.
 

Sir_Cliff

Well-Known Member
Darling of the International Parks segment... DLP is making a profit which is a revelation and more than the Chinese parks are doing but still a tiny $ number and low margin compared to the US parks.
I am curious to know how profitable DLRP is these days. The overall number for the International Parks segment is low, but who knows how much they lost in Shanghai and Hong Kong during the last few quarters?
 

Indy_UK

Well-Known Member
In reality, Disney hasn’t had to do too much to turn DLP around since taking over. Added a decent Lion King show, a nice looking Avengers Campus and announce an expansion, despite the constant prices rises there too.

Still far from perfect in the studios park but my heart is more with Paris than Orlando these days
 

Sir_Cliff

Well-Known Member
In reality, Disney hasn’t had to do too much to turn DLP around since taking over. Added a decent Lion King show, a nice looking Avengers Campus and announce an expansion, despite the constant prices rises there too.
I could be wrong about this, but my impression is that DLP management deserves a lot of the credit for the resort's recent turnaround. They seem to really care about things like refurbishments and live entertainment that I imagine they have more control over. The 30th Anniversary, for example, seems to have been a massive success, particularly when compared to WDW's 50th.

Where I think the resort could be more ambitious is in terms of expansion, but then wouldn't that be more something that has to go through management and WDI back in the States?
 

Indy_UK

Well-Known Member
The people they have in charge of DLP are certainly the right people. You can tell from the quality of maintenance and shows they put on that they truly care.

I feel that they are given a small budget from Burbank and they decide to use it for what I mentioned about rather than blowing it on adding capacity and rides which will easily eat up their budgets.

The resorts on the whole are decent. (Can thank Eisner for building too many at the time) Food is very slowly getting better. It really is just expansions and rides that are needed.

I don’t even want a 3rd park in my lifetime. I just want 2 fleshed out parks and an awesome mini Disney Springs
 

UpAllNight

Well-Known Member
Disney Parks can’t be judged singularly in their profitability as they are effectively shop windows to the brand, which result in additional none resort specific purchases. It’s why the closure of the Disney Stores was incredibly short sighted imo. Whenever we went to a place with one it was an “event” to go, resulting in a subtle additional layer of brand loyalty, even if we never purchased a thing.

On that, they need to build more in Paris, and Avatar seems a sensible decision based on popularity
 

nickys

Premium Member
Star Wars or Avatar. Personally I want Star Wars.

But they should build Rise or FoP. The latter could be adapted to a different IP.
 

JaKnight

Member
I'd like Moss Eisley and Rise of the Rebellion, all based on OTrilogy.

Another one would be Shadowland, with Bald Mountain as the icon of the area and a dark ride with the main Disney Villains.
 

Pizza Moon

Well-Known Member
I mean if they clone Cars Land from California, that, but otherwise Pandora is easily their best single-land option, that they’ll actually do, like easily. I wish they’d do a Star Wars Land done right, though.

Sad that they’ve basically given up on Star Wars as a major parks play, though I’d think we’d get expansions at their existing lands eventually.

Maybe they also want to save it for a DLP Discoveryland expansion, who knows.

In any case, Rise of the Rebels or a Speederbike/Podracing coaster as the headliner would be extremely successful; the land (or just the ride m doesn’t even have to be as large as Galaxy’s Edge, you could theme it to a single planet like Naboo, Endor, or Coruscant, or just take style queues from them. Just a cantina done right, gift shop, Jedi Training academy, a Falcon walkthrough, meet and greet, and quick-service would be enough if scaled correctly and you could design it with expansion plots in mind. Maybe you make the land have various planet minilands like SNW at Epic, or maybe you don’t and you just make like an amalgamation of Star Wars, or maybe it’s a specific planet. Point is, there are just so many possibilities that I feel like, in another world where they did the sequel trilogy right and the land like originally planned, that concept at least would’ve likely ushered in a new era for Star Wars at the parks, instead of sort of, ending it, in a strange way. So Paris should revitalize it IMO. It was the right move to cancel the half-baked Galaxy’s Edge, but now it’s time to look to other concepts for the IP, both at their existing lands and new ones. Shanghai probably won’t get any Star Wars if it’s an EPCOT World Showcase style park (plus it isn’t big in China), but I could see it happening at Japan’s third park, whenever that happens if it can fit the theme.

Brits adore Star Wars, and while the French and Germans seemingly prefer Avatar, I see no reason why you couldn’t have both. They’re still arguably their two biggest non-Disney live action, Disney/Pixar Animated film, I’m pretty sure, like full-stop. Since the last two lands at the resort will be from Disney Animation, I think they need to diversify, and it’d be a mistake to do Zootopia or Moana next unless they switch it up.

I also just don’t think Zootopia is Tangled, Moana, Lilo and Stitch (OG) good, honestly, so it’s annoying having these discussions where it supersedes all of these other, better, potential concepts. Zootopia has an outsized influence in China that is probably hard to comprehend for most Americans, so while it probably should get an attraction at Paris (God I hope it doesn’t go in DLP), I really hope it isn’t the priority for a large-scaled project. Adding it lien Thr Little Mermaid style to DAW would be an interesting approach. The park sort of needs another couple of rides, that Soarin’ and the Avengers E-ticket were supposed to fill outside of the lakes, so we’ll see.

Truly, a Star Wars expansion of DLP times for within a year of Universal UK opening would be very smart.

By this point I assume Pandora (or whatever) might already be open at DAW, or certainly at least under construction.

If they don’t do Star Wars as its own land/miniland in Discoveryland then I felt that Lion King would’ve been the best bet for Frontierland.

Since that didn’t happen, I think a type of New Fantasyland done more on the scale of Fantasy Springs with Tangled, Winnie the Pooh, and Beauty and the Beast would be sick. Aladdin could work too for FL, but I think aesthetically it’s better suited for Adventureland, I mean, the Middle East entrance area is basically begging for it, though there isn’t room there, so it’d have to be towards the back of the land, but it’d still work pretty good.

Adventureland works best for Indiana Jones Adventure, like their original concept for next to the Indiana Jones coaster and it’s a proven masterpiece, but if they don’t go that route Aladdin and Moana are probably the second best choices.

I think tonally Lilo and Stitch would work better at MK, HWS, or at Paris’ DAW, but that is another massive, underutilized, IP option. Even Jungle Book, but that just isn’t on the same level in appeal.
 

Pizza Moon

Well-Known Member
I'd like Moss Eisley and Rise of the Rebellion, all based on OTrilogy.

Another one would be Shadowland, with Bald Mountain as the icon of the area and a dark ride with the main Disney Villains.
There is literally no better outcome than a new Star Wars land, even if more like a miniland, besides getting like a clone of Mysterious Island from Tokyo, Treasure Cove from Shanghai, Pandora from AK, or Cars Land from California, but they seem to be moving away from clones, and thankfully.

Taking the Pandora concept from California could be cool too.

But I’m already acting like the park’s Lion King area is open as it’s not really completed until then.

Which gives lots of opportunities, either entire lands at both parks or just E-ticket additions, they could do all four in theory next decade.

I mean, if they aren’t going to push back the third park yet again they pretty much have to to get their existing parks with where they ought to be. But even if they do, having a major new project open every other year at the resort, given that it needs more than any other in the world, would make total sense once they’ve seen DAW has proven itself to have major growth in a couple years.
 

Aramar

Well-Known Member
Didn't they say the next land around the lake would not have a water ride? That would exclude DCA Pandora immediately right?
They just said the next attraction wouldn't be a flume. It doesn't need to be around the lake and it could be an expansion of Avengers Campus for example. Or a water ride that's not a "flume", the ambiguity leves the door open for something like a water coaster. So DCA Pandora is not coming next, but it could be coming after that "not flume ride".
 

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
Given the history of DLP, I'll just be happy if we actually do get a third and fourth land

I don't have a strong preference for one or the other given the list of rumored candidates (Avatar, Moana, Zootopia)
 

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
If they're not going to build a third Marvel ride, may I suggest Big Hero 6 for the Stunt Show space?

Something visually distinct from the other lands that could bridge the Campus and Adventure Bay, another opportunity for a high-tech meet 'n greet with Baymax plus unique dining opportunities with cuisine the park doesn't offer now I think.
 

Aramar

Well-Known Member
If they're not going to build a third Marvel ride, may I suggest Big Hero 6 for the Stunt Show space?

Something visually distinct from the other lands that could bridge the Campus and Adventure Bay, another opportunity for a high-tech meet 'n greet with Baymax plus unique dining opportunities with cuisine the park doesn't offer now I think.
Actually, Big Hero 6 is based on a Marvel comic, so it could be a nice transition between Avengers Campus and Adventure Way
 

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