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WDW Cracking Down on Third-Party Businesses

DisneyHead123

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Guests can demand all they want…I can demand to get the ME buses back…I can demand to get the room delivery restored…if the mouse says no, it’s no, FULL STOP.

Now as far as them adopting an “authorized” vendor list, that’s not gonna happen because I can assure you they would probably require vendors to carry MILLIONS in liability insurance which most “mom & pop” entities will never be able to afford.

Speaking of liabilities, I worked in retail management for most of my adult life. I worked for many NATIONAL chains that wouldn’t allow charitable organizations ex. Girl Scouts) to set up a table to sell cookies…I used to feel absolutely horrible saying no to the scouts, but it’s their company and if a customer trips and falls due to a table leg while walking into or out of the store, the scouts won’t get sued, the store will.

If these big ticket guests want chefs, decorated doors & rooms, book a room off property or an air B&B and have at it.

I owned a small retail establishment…if I didn’t provide a service, I’m still not going to let another vendor to set up shop to make money off my infrastructure. That’s how you LOSE your business…

I honestly don’t know.

On the one hand, yeah, offsite vendors are a huge hassle for Disney.

On the other, tell a large group of modern parents shelling out insane amounts of money for Disney trips that their children can’t have something, and typically it will… not go well.

We’ll see.
 

DisneyHead123

Well-Known Member
That sounds like a parenting problem…

Maybe, but market forces are generally amoral about how people should behave, so long as they’re spending money.

I bring it up because I feel like there are things people will groan about, and things that will truly make them angry enough to stay offsite. Things that feel like an infringement on autonomy tend to drive people insane. Take away their personal chef or their kid’s princess tea party and that really could mean a very high paying guest staying at Evermore. Maybe not though - I give it 60% odds of Disney walking this back.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I honestly don’t know.

On the one hand, yeah, offsite vendors are a huge hassle for Disney.

On the other, tell a large group of modern parents shelling out insane amounts of money for Disney trips that their children can’t have something, and typically it will… not go well.

We’ll see.
This must be the introduction to the opposites…
Maybe, but market forces are generally amoral about how people should behave, so long as they’re spending money.

I bring it up because I feel like there are things people will groan about, and things that will truly make them angry enough to stay offsite. Things that feel like an infringement on autonomy tend to drive people insane. Take away their personal chef or their kid’s princess tea party and that really could mean a very high paying guest staying at Evermore. Maybe not though - I give it 60% odds of Disney walking this back.
I don’t think you understand the business model they run.

It’s not “as long as you buy a room and a ticket…you can go ahead and do/buy anything you want and insert it on our grounds”

There about 50 problems with believing that off the top of my head…we’ve already covered a bunch but there is more.
 

mysto

Well-Known Member
I'm against third party concessions at Disney, in national parks, or anywhere. But no one is going to listen to me I'm merely a citizen. I'm powerless.
 

DisneyHead123

Well-Known Member
I don’t think you understand the business model they run.

It’s not “as long as you buy a room and a ticket…you can go ahead and do/buy anything you want and insert it on our grounds”

That’s not at all what I’m saying.

I’m saying that if enough people stay offsite over this, suddenly a solution will materialize.

If it makes no significant dent in room reservations, Disney will not take on the hassle and cost of having an approved vendor list.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
Well if they catch them, they can still tresspass them, and really you if they want. Its not like they need proof beyond a reasonable doubt to booth them/you off the property if they believe "Cousin Wolfgang" is being paid.

But what also needs to be remembered is that the point isn't to try and play pokemon here and "catch them all." WDW knows that given the number of resorts, rooms in each, and people trying to operate services like being talked about here, unless you are devoting TSA level security at each resort, its going to be impossible to completely stop it from happening. You perform crackdowns like this periodically and send C&D letters out in order to, amongst other reasons 1) Allow the option for criminal trespass and charges against people who have been warned/trespassed and are caught subsequently to the notice. 2) be able to show in any third party lawsuit that is brought by a plaintiff against WDW that they are not silently consenting to these people coming on property, and that they have an history of trying to prevent it from happening, including sending C&D's and trespassing people when found.
Well, if I'm rich enough to have a private chef, makeup artist and masseur in my suite, Di$ney prob'ly isn't going to sniff too closely at what my staff is doing for me. Heck, I've probably got a pseudo-mansion over in Golden Oaks that I could retreat to if they insist -- I'm only in the resort for a little variety (and I don't want my extended family freeloaders tracking up the marble floors).
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
That’s not at all what I’m saying.

I’m saying that if enough people stay offsite over this, suddenly a solution will materialize.

If it makes no significant dent in room reservations, Disney will not take on the hassle and cost of having an approved vendor list.
Yeah…no…

That’s still not what’s going on here.

They control everything out of principle. That’s the point. It’s not a microeconomics problem on a test.
 

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