Is everything just IP mandate quota now?

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Making everything a highlight reel of old animation or film is not particularly creative…it never was.

But deep down even the dusters know this

 

[Brer Panther]

Yeah it’s all IP except for most of France, and all of China, Germany, Italy, USA, Japan, Morocco, UK and Canada.

Well, they did consider putting a Brave ride in the UK pavilion at one point, didn't they?

Your point still stands, but it's worth noting that Disney doesn't have any "flavor of the month" IPs that take place in those countries (Mulan's not popular enough to get a ride, I guess?), so that probably factors into why most of World Showcase is IP-free. Plus, most of those pavilions don't have attractions at all, and we know how hesitant Iger is to actually add capacity.

And for what it's worth, I don't have a problem with the France pavilion having a Ratatouille attraction. The attraction itself sucks, but the placement has nothing to do with it.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yeah it’s all IP except for most of France, and all of China, Germany, Italy, USA, Japan, Morocco, UK and Canada.

Jesus…you’re giving them credit for being too cheap to only HALF overlay the park?

A park designed around eduction with ZERO cartoons involved?

They used an “expansion” pad for a meet and greet house - that’s never crowded - for Princess from a fictitious ice kinda thing kingdom?

 

[JD80]

I think my point is pretty clear - introducing kids to things they aren't already familiar with expands their worldview in a way that attractions that are just a runthrough of their favorite films do not. Kids (or anyone) still can get inspiration from IP attractions, but more often in a way not related to the content of the attraction. Like perhaps the technology behind making it all work, like you said.

Sure, but Tower of Terror or Expedition Everest is no more or less inspiration worthy than the new Indiana Jones ride being built or MMRR.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Sure, but Tower of Terror or Expedition Everest is no more or less inspiration worthy than the new Indiana Jones ride being built or MMRR.

The “new” Indy ride is a reskin on a movie franchise That’s 45 years old and they ran into the ditch

At least try to be somewhat legit in your dust defense

 

[HMF]

Well, they did consider putting a Brave ride in the UK pavilion at one point, didn't they?

Your point still stands, but it's worth noting that Disney doesn't have any "flavor of the month" IPs that take place in those countries (Mulan's not popular enough to get a ride, I guess?), so that probably factors into why most of World Showcase is IP-free. Plus, most of those pavilions don't have attractions at all, and we know how hesitant Iger is to actually add capacity.

And for what it's worth, I don't have a problem with the France pavilion having a Ratatouille attraction. The attraction itself sucks, but the placement has nothing to do with it.

I am still amazed yet also quite happy that they didn't shove Ratatouille into the Impressions space.

 

[Poseidon Quest]

Newer IP replacing older IP isn’t exactly an example of it not working, and the new show is wildly popular compared to the old despite my own feelings towards it.

"Wildly popular" is quite the descriptor for a park that only has 5 rides and 4 shows total at the moment. If Animal Kingdom had adequate capacity, I have no doubt that this show would be empty beyond its first year of being new.

 

[Tom Morrow]

Sure, but Tower of Terror or Expedition Everest is no more or less inspiration worthy than the new Indiana Jones ride being built or MMRR.

It's maybe too soon to say, but based on what they've released - I might end up agreeing. Indiana Jones is the sort of character and IP that can be paired with any original adventure story. Since it isn't going to be based on any of the existing films, that does open the door for the attraction having more layers and depth compared to attractions that are just a run through of their IP's existing media, or nothing outside of the scope of that world.

 

[Biff215]

"Wildly popular" is quite the descriptor for a park that only has 5 rides and 4 shows total at the moment. If Animal Kingdom had adequate capacity, I have no doubt that this show would be empty beyond its first year of being new.

Perhaps that’s dramatic, but the show has been well received by a majority of guests and had a decent line even before Dinoland’s closure. It’s a perfect example of IP carrying an attraction that many of us feel is mediocre at best. Take the known characters away and it might be a ghost town.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I am still amazed yet also quite happy that they didn't shove Ratatouille into the Impressions space.

We got really lucky Ratatouille was a true expansion and not a destroy and replace of Impressions.

 

[Tom Morrow]

Perhaps that’s dramatic, but the show has been well received by a majority of guests and had a decent line even before Dinoland’s closure. It’s a perfect example of IP carrying an attraction that many of us feel is mediocre at best. Take the known characters away and it might be a ghost town.

I have yet to speak with or read the reaction of one person that enjoyed it in any capacity more than “my kids were mildly entertained”.

I also don’t think that people seeing it because of its characters and then not enjoying it is an argument in favor of IP slop attractions. People are paying for quality experiences, not just to point at characters they recognize. The bar has to be higher than “people are taking time to see it, who cares if it sucks”.

 

[Biff215]

I have yet to speak with or read the reaction of one person that enjoyed it in any capacity more than “my kids were mildly entertained”.

I also don’t think that people seeing it because of its characters and then not enjoying it is an argument in favor of IP slop attractions. People are paying for quality experiences, not just to point at characters they recognize. The bar has to be higher than “people are taking time to see it, who cares if it sucks”.

I don’t disagree, but unfortunately this trend is unlikely to change unless the parks suddenly stop printing money, and LL has only made this worse.

 

[Brer Panther]

We got really lucky Ratatouille was a true expansion and not a destroy and replace of Impressions.

Of course, they're trying to replace Impressions with the Lefou Sing-Along anyway.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

"Wildly popular" is quite the descriptor for a park that only has 5 rides and 4 shows total at the moment. If Animal Kingdom had adequate capacity, I have no doubt that this show would be empty beyond its first year of being new.

The park had 9 rides, 5 shows, and 3 walking trails at its peak. As bad as i find the zootopia show, fact is that even with the same ride count ITTBAB was a walk on far more than the new show.

 

[Mr. Engagement]

How have attractions/restaurants with park-original themes fared lately? Hit or miss, it seems.

 

[WorldExplorer]

Zoogether isn't even half a year old, I would hold off on calling it a rousing success that totally beats out that twenty five year old thing it replaced for at least a decade.

Perhaps that’s dramatic, but the show has been well received by a majority of guests and had a decent line even before Dinoland’s closure. It’s a perfect example of IP carrying an attraction that many of us feel is mediocre at best. Take the known characters away and it might be a ghost town.

"Dinoland" was a pathway to a thrill ride and a quick service by the time they opened Zoogether. In particular, it had just lost all of its kid friendly stuff. But even with it fully intact many would argue Animal Kingdom's capacity was too low. Animal Kingdom not having enough options is a totally fair point.

 

[Mondo]

The “new” Indy ride is a reskin on a movie franchise That’s 45 years old and they ran into the ditch

At least try to be somewhat legit in your dust defense

I’m glad you put “new” in quotations because I’m 99% sure they’re keeping the same track layout as Dinosaur. This company is creatively bankrupt.

 

[graphite1326]

There is one non IP attraction that was very good and I want back. One of my favorites: Alien Encounter. BRING IT BACK. That building just sits empty.

 

[flynnibus]

It's tough to be a Bug went away for 2 reasons with the first being Bug's life is an older Pixar film that that got overshadowed by Toy Story and Zootopia is popular globally.

You don't think it had anything to do with it ...

BEING A 27 YEAR OLD SHOW with no changes to it?

Got news for you.. Eventually Indy and BatB are going to go down the same way. Replaced, not because they are IP or not, but because they are stale.

 

[flynnibus]

Come on guys.. just 10 more messages to 150.. from a throw-away account who stirred you up with a single post!