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Disney to push using AI to empower and accelerate artists

Pizza Moon

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Seems like this is the way I’ve been saying AI should be used for ages…

Seems like under Josh the company is in good hands.
 

moonrqys

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In the Parks
No
All well and good that it’s being an aid for employees, for right now. I stand against AI in art entirely, as I believe it’s an illegitimate way to produce “new” “content.” It’s imagery that is taken from pre-existing art, and warping it to your own desire. It’s inherently and I believe it takes away from the magic of Disney and the talent of animation.
Now, there is a point to be made that we as humans basically do the same thing. We see something we like, and then we imitate that. I believe it’s different from using AI, because we put our personal, perspective twist on it, using our own skills, styles, and handiwork. It takes time, effort , and development.

Secondly, this seems like a slippery slope. What’s to say that in 10 years, after animators and artists working in tandem with AI learning, aren’t laid off because AI can do the same work, quicker and cheaper?
In my eyes, this is effectively WALL-E; this is the rise of BNL, where everyone sits back, while everything is done automatically; while technology becomes a necessity in everyday interaction and task, rather than a tool.

Anyways… I’ll get off my soap-box 😅. Thank you for sharing!
 

Pizza Moon

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All well and good that it’s being an aid for employees, for right now.
It will evolve to more, and then entirely new fields will be created to work alongside them, and also to do what humans are more specifically better at

Ie. Paralegals, researchers, journalists, many accounting jobs, most admin- jobs, many management positions, even strategic business planning. The world will be better off for it because it’s mostly wage slavery anyway, if you really think about it.

That’s before robots eventually automate most workers like surgeons, housekeeping, factories, agriculture, you name it, which will plummet the costs of everything.

I genuinely think we could see deflation at levels never conceptually understood before.

Which means you can just give out payments to citizens in perpetuity, as things get more and more exponential via treasury payments.

I’m not joking, this is, so long as a AI doesn’t destroy the world or some other outlier like a meteor strike or nuclear war, I think this outcome is structurally inevitable.

Normies just aren’t prepared for what’s coming. :D

Transition will be tough, but I think it delivers a modern Renaissance.
I stand against AI in art entirely, as I believe it’s an illegitimate way to produce “new” “content.” It’s imagery that is taken from pre-existing art, and warping it to your own desire. It’s inherently and I believe it takes away from the magic of Disney and the talent of animation.
Now, there is a point to be made that we as humans basically do the same thing. We see something we like, and then we imitate that. I believe it’s different from using AI, because we put our personal, perspective twist on it, using our own skills, styles, and handiwork. It takes time, effort , and development.

In my eyes, this is effectively WALL-E; this is the rise of BNL, where everyone sits back, while everything is done automatically; while technology becomes a necessity in everyday interaction and task, rather than a tool.

Anyways… I’ll get off my soap-box 😅. Thank you for sharing!
I would love it to totally eliminate pointless jobs, as most jobs are, or very tedious aspects of artistry,

Lots of tedious legal work, accounting, business strategizing, could all be done using AI and free up the company to hire people that fit alongside this new reality.

AI will create an artistic and scientific Renaissance, creatives that don’t use AI don’t get it, generally. It’s a huge issue in the film industry in particular where people won’t even “attempt” to see in ways it could help with editing and formatting scripts, storyboard rapidly, making quick edits via a suite of tools in the future (like Blender and Renderman on crack) in the future, and AI created art, edited by humans but in future AI editors will allow you to do it all.

Blender, etc. will be replaced by AI JARVIS-like personal assistants that retain persistent presence and learns exponentially about you , and will then have in the program itself (ie. Grok, DeepSeek, or Gemeni), will have, I believe, basically a Final Cut Proc Blender you name it built-in. Office Suide by Microsoft? Also screwed.

Eventually these agents will be running our computers and devices and we just won’t question it, but that goes beyond just the specific use-cases for exceedingly impressive use-cases, beyond just a personal assistant that helps you with anything.

Just prompting AI and creating things will likely remain for consumers, artists are just going to have tedious workflows aspects automated, but those that embrace it will these both the quality of their work and productivity will explode. AI media will be its own thing like CG animation versus handrawn, but CG animation will absolutely have workflow automation.

Now a TV show with a shoestring budget could theoretically have Dune-level CGI if lead by a talented, experienced, and genius animator. It’s going to make so many things better.

AI is in its infancy and people just it based on today.

Internally, OpenAI has biology tools that could legitimately cure many cancers, but they haven’t released it because it could also be used nefariously to create pandemics (besides the fact OpenAI is a horrible company and likely loses to Gemini/XAI in America).

Fundamentally, all human created things are ALSO relying on our larger society’s to influence us, I know it’s slightly different with an AI, but it is conceptually the same thing which is why you can use copyrighted material to train AI, it’s jus the output that is an issue.

I hope this whole thing causes excessive copyright that protects oligarchs to not matter as much.

Like we take for granted the very language we speak, all these. All these social things, etc. all the media we consume shapes us, we learn from it subconsciously and consciously.

AIs learn based on existing material, and finally for the first time it’s creating novel things.


So I think it will be a combination.

Every person will have an AI JARVIS personal assistant, virtually every existing job can be massively more productive via AI (most corporate use-cases are heavily censored/restricted and aren’t being used right because the companies themselves don’t understand the tech, there will be some new jobs created, and there will be many jobs permanently lost.

We will view many industries and jobs like monks copying books or typerwriters going to town.


Now, there is a point to be made that we as humans basically do the same thing. We see something we like, and then we imitate that. I believe it’s different from using AI, because we put our personal, perspective twist on it, using our own skills, styles, and handiwork. It takes time, effort , and development.
Many jobs will be removed, many “side gigs” will be eliminated. The weaker animators won’t be needed.

I agree this is a potential problem, but I think people we are living in an age where the average movie release is indistinguishable from an AI written script? Endless remakes, little effort. Forced messaging.

There is beauty in craftsmanship, but IMO like sculpting a statue by hand or hand animating a background is different than adding some CG color grading or a spaceship. It’s like the people are still going to have to design and create things using their imagination, language is just how it translates to asking for an AI to help. It’s like if you have tons of highly competent AI employees and editing tools now, it actually lowers the playing field to many industries.

I will say, the directors vision matters most in a movie, and you’d still have collaboration (tho solo projects or a team with 6 people could exist outside of studios) at Disney or other studios. So it’s not the actors necessarily or a CG artist that are the most important inherently, it is the director’s vision, while they can add things or whatever that add on and improve it, if now for just thousands potentially you can make a movie instead of millions, it democratizes the process. Ironically, while you’ll have like Google, SpaceX, Tesla be massive, you’ll also have tons of smaller players for the first time ever able to compete with existing businesses that just milk their IP, or abuse their market share, or whatever.

I think that perception gap is an issue because people that SHOULD be using AI aren’t, while the people who are dumb are. It’s why you see kids turning in ChatGPT written papers instead of you know, using it to find sources, organizing structure, coming up with ideas in a brainstorming session, etc. AI will cure every disease, solve every supply chain issue, expose corruption everywhere.

I’m willing to wager
Secondly, this seems like a slippery slope. What’s to say that in 10 years, after animators and artists working in tandem with AI learning, aren’t laid off because AI can do the same work, quicker and cheaper?
In my eyes, this is effectively WALL-E; this is the rise of BNL, where everyone sits back, while everything is done automatically; while technology becomes a necessity in everyday interaction and task, rather than a tool.
This is a problem, but I also think it’s a positive. Many things will be cheaper while also in reading profits, making it a win-win and not zero sum.

It comes down more to the ethics of the AI companies themselves and the governments regulating them. They will become so powerful that there’s no way nation states don’t have influence over it (very scary to see over regulation though because that will lead to arbitrary slippery slope censorship that could genujenly destroy the world),and I als

The #1 threat I view with AI is this (and there are many): an AI is able to create a reality so real and lifelike and full physics and biology understanding baked in makes it impossible to distinguish what is real from not, and thus a government, or single very powerful evil company like an OpenAI, could use regulations as a slow means of power control, as they could just create anything on TV/social media and no one would know the difference if there’s no alternative. It’s 1984 but even worse, and no one is talking about it.

But if an AI company is inherently truth-seeking and well led, and AI regulations are done so with the input of these people and only with their approval should it happen, then it at least has a chance to not cause 1984.

I also think you’re going to see companies and startups compete at scale now with larger companies.

Say by 2028 saying the pace continues and vector-based AI models make things exponential, after AI continues exponentially, you’ll genuinely be able to recreate the look of Dune, with specific intention too and artistry, by totally removing the costs associated with getting g that amazing CGI or a specific shot.

You can storyboard it by sketching and describing in detail. People are sleeping on this. It’ll change everything.

The quality of scripts, CG, everything.

AI art does exist, it’s just that like most non-AI stuff it’s also slop, it just makes the margin of entry for idiots easier haha, but inherently can’t have any regulations for arbitrary cultural safeguards because you do that and it permanently creates an inherent reality where it keeps people in a prison, instead of allowing us to evolve based on new knowledge and understanding.

At some point, AI will even figure out religion and reality. If people aren’t ready for AI art, good luck😂
Anyways… I’ll get off my soap-box 😅. Thank you for sharing!
Appreciate the kinds words and thank you for your post as well!

Was a lovely read!
 
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Pizza Moon

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Original Poster
All well and good that it’s being an aid for employees, for right now. I stand against AI in art entirely, as I believe it’s an illegitimate way to produce “new” “content.” It’s imagery that is taken from pre-existing art, and warping it to your own desire. It’s inherently and I believe it takes away from the magic of Disney and the talent of animation.
Now, there is a point to be made that we as humans basically do the same thing. We see something we like, and then we imitate that. I believe it’s different from using AI, because we put our personal, perspective twist on it, using our own skills, styles, and handiwork. It takes time, effort , and development.

Secondly, this seems like a slippery slope. What’s to say that in 10 years, after animators and artists working in tandem with AI learning, aren’t laid off because AI can do the same work, quicker and cheaper?
In my eyes, this is effectively WALL-E; this is the rise of BNL, where everyone sits back, while everything is done automatically; while technology becomes a necessity in everyday interaction and task, rather than a tool.

Anyways… I’ll get off my soap-box 😅. Thank you for sharing!
I’ll also add, movies like Wall-E are important to the leaders and visionaries of today to shape their minds.

It’s an outcome we should all try to avoid, but even in the movie the human spirit is highly resilient.

I think IRL, it will allow people to have free time to actually pursue things.

When paired with universal income, it basically means wage slavery ends, and chores are done by your robots, so you can literally enjoy life.

I’ve recently gone on to play beach volleyball a lot. I’m always trying to improve my piano skills, write music, learn new songs, just play Freeform. I could fill lifetimes just doing that.

I also love Minecraft. I enjoy building worlds and the back-end server stuff too, video game design in general, it’s fun to me, or I could have friends come over to play Mario Kart on the switch, or PlayStation Steam for Lego Star Wars, Quiplash, Subnautica, Fortnite, EA Sports, Half-life: Alyx.

Infinite movies, I mean legitimately infinite and I enjoy watching my favorites monthly and even pause and analyze frames.


Live near water and it’s warm (lake/ocean/pool) go suntanning/beach volleyball, beach soccer, BBQs,

Infinite card games.

Infinite business ideas I’d like to pursue and I’d actually be able to with AI agents and robots.

Infinite places I’d like to see on Earth.

I’ve always wanted to learn surfing and scuba diving, would love to go to the moon someday, genuinely want like a dozen kids if I could, love spending time with family in general, going on hikes and trails, movie theaters, concerts, musicals, music festivals, comedy clubs, theme parks, amusement parks, museums, fashion shows, sports events, I mean life is genuinely pretty infinite. I’d love to live much longer than humans. First day we have de-aging tech (which AI will probably generally solve, for the most part as it’s simple in concept) I’m signing up for it.

I mean I’d genuinely learn sculpting and try to become god tier if I genuinely had infinite time.

I also find geology interesting so I’d love to go to the various parks and learn a lot more; I’d go out with researchers if I could just for fun after an AI 200+ IQ Einstein tutor has helped me over the last few months in preparation.

Marine animals are so cool, if we find every species of make it a point to go see for myself in the ocean as many as I could. Conservation is big to me but the real kind like pro-good fishing practices not NIMBYism, innovation in general fascinating. I’d love to go and study urban planning in another life and help make American cities feel more Europeans.

The Good Place I feel is easy logical on this, in their approach to how Heaven could look like, not exactly but it’s probs my the first mainstream way of describing an ideal reality, and it does it pretty well, but I really do think you can find pretty much infinitely interesting things to do.

Now it’s like, okay, you don’t need to work a job that doesn’t matter, or if you love your job you can do it better and start learning Italian.

Like I think people aren’t creative enough with a world without slavery, wage slavery. Humanity will actually be freed! That’s what visionaries want at least. The people who actually care about the future (ie. Walt Disney, Nikola Tesla, Elon Musk, Steve Jobs)
 

Pizza Moon

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Wait, I always assumed posters were all bots. That's not true? Is it just the ones who obsess about AI?
So I’m a bot?
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