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MK Country Bear Jamboree is getting new songs and acts

FigmentsBrightIdeas

Well-Known Member
I would like to see them create a Christmas overlay again for this show.

"As Long as There's Christmas"

"That Time of Year"

"It Feels Like Christmas"

"Whats This?"

etc.
They could honestly just bring back the original Christmas show (IMO, would be preferable and also cheaper to do), but judging by the blatantly clear lack of merchandising this show to keep further interest in the Country Bears alive, I sadly don’t see that happening. Whoever at Disney’s responsible for that should be humiliated. Seriously, There’s no good excuse for it.
 
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Disney Analyst

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They could honestly just rerun the original Christmas show (IMO, would be preferable and also cheaper to do), but judging by the blatantly clear lack of merchandising this show to keep further interest in the Country Bears alive, I sadly don’t see that happening. Whoever at Disney responsible for that should be humiliated. Seriously, There’s no good excuse for it.

I’m assuming they’d like to maintain the IP music mandate (with maybe some Christmas gems sprinkled in), which is why I thought about that list.
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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Btw, hate to plug anything ‘but’ I figured this is somewhat on topic. Might wanna check this thread out and the other posts I posted initially in the Muppets’ Electric Mayhem taking over Rock N Roller Coaster thread (i posted more there); regarding attraction sabotage or at the very least seemingly intentional neglect that leads to what we love going away, in this case, the Country Bear Jamboree at Disneyland, which, later on in its life, they couldn’t decide on a proper name for the attraction (via screwy new signage) and decided to keep a proven not as popular version (through running it at WDW too) of the show at DL only, while WDW & TDL would rotate fairly and/or be switched back to the more popular one accordingly (WDW brought the original back in ‘92 after Vacation Hoedown failed to impress as much during its run)… and then, to truly “kill it off” at DL, they pulled the same queue rope shenanigans that killed the original Journey Into Imagination at EPCOT with the redone queue ropes, signage, and monorail spiels making Honey, I Shrunk the Audience out to be the main attraction there to drop the ride’s attendance and then make the horrible, mixed up Honey I Shrunk IP themed, “Imagination” ride that makes no sense anymore that it’s been since ‘99 and again in ‘02, just with Figment’s Return “phoned in” (literally! No joke). (All evidence of that shady scheme happening shown in that thread). In DL’s Country Bear Jamboree’s case, it was a Winnie the Pooh meet n greet and rethemed gift shop (Crocodile Mercantile to Pooh Corner in ‘96, cause ya know, you expect to find Country Bear merchandise in ‘there’, right? that did it in. Aw yeah, and a film that not only had a director & vision that had little to no respect for the original show involved but a release date that did the parks show itself no favors. I swear. LOL):
25:40 goes a bit into the Winnie the Pooh themed shop & meet n greet introduced in ‘96. And again, continuing to call that show a “Playhouse” once Vacation Hoedown (or was it Country Bear Vacation Jamboree.. lol! They just couldn’t figure that out) came, knowing Knott’s Bear•y Tales Playhouse (which was a walk through attraction) was a short distance away. yeah.. huh, can’t imagine how things may change by ‘intentionally’ retheming Crocodile Mercantile to a Winnie the Pooh gift shop might change things.. and have Pooh merch sell at a ‘Pooh themed store’ (not a ‘Critter Country’ themed store like initially) over Country Bear merch (again, everything I mentioned prior about “hey, you expect to find Country Bear merch in ‘there’ right?”) Couple this with what was done to the show & its signage, despite what happened at WDW in FL and at Tokyo Disneyland, Shaaadddy. (PS: Just couldn’t find anywhere to sell the Pooh stuff in ‘Fantasyland’, where he’d fit, right?? And have a live show or small ride for him at the theater area ‘there’, right?)
 
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FigmentsBrightIdeas

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And even then, they weren’t even selling much Bear merch even then. (Despite there being a decent number of merch when it opened back in ‘72 at DL, check the Country Bear Collector’s website & show on YT) They were selling this (of course) Mixed-Up (like always when these crazy shady schemes happen) set of bean bag plush toys, where they can’t figure out whether to have all the characters in a set themed to the Original or Vacation Hoedown, marketed under “Critter Country” (yup, they’re just the land’s critters from the sign, maybe they’re from Splash Mountain, I dunno.. 👀) not the Country Bear Jamboree or the “Country Bear Playhouse” as they bizarrely called DL’s for a while (despite originally being called Country Bear Jamboree there, also & Tokyo’s being called Country Bear Theatre). Just LOL:
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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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And something I mentioned briefly in the Figment thread, but maybe should be discussed here if not already. Seriously, what the hell is up with the Ludicrous lack of merchandising for the new Country Bear Musical Jamboree at WDW?? Why invest heavily into a new show with the capacity it has, only to not market or merchandise it properly, despite the characters’ appeal & popularity. So, SO frustrating & baffling. On top of it, this merch could be sold both at WDW ‘and’ DL. I 100% believe it’d sell on both coasts.
It makes no sense. At the very least we’ve gotten a few things here and there but there really should be a lot more, a least plushes.

randomly though, Henry and Oscar are featured in the upcoming “Walt Disney World Storybook” collection which is releasing this year. So at least they’re included there!
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

Well-Known Member
It was clearly underutilized!
If only there was a way to use it, perhaps with merch of the brand new show Disney put a lot of resources into making… nah, let’s just tear it down.

For real though… Disney tearing down two money-making opportunities to replace them with nothing that makes money? What’s going on, a reverse Rivers of America here?
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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If only there was a way to use it, perhaps with merch of the brand new show Disney put a lot of resources into making… nah, let’s just tear it down.

For real though… Disney tearing down two money-making opportunities to replace them with nothing that makes money? What’s going on, a reverse Rivers of America here?
Again, just, Why???! That cart could be filled with Country Bear Jamboree themed merch, and instead, it’s not. Sure, you’ve got the coonskin cap that references Davy Crockett (though funnily enough, that’s not even referenced in the show anymore) but what else? Nothing that’s specifically tied to the show itself. Ridiculous. Execs should be humiliated by the shock of that realization by the public and laughed at for how ridiculous stuff like this is. ‘Especially’ if it’s being done intentionally. A Country Bear merch cart that ‘doesn’t’ feature or carry any Country Bear merch. How does that make any sense? It doesn’t! Lol
 
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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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Again, just, Why???! That cart could be filled with Country Bear Jamboree themed merch, and instead, it’s not. Sure, you’ve got the coonskin cap that references Davy Crockett (though funnily enough, that’s not even referenced in the show anymore) but what else? Nothing that’s specifically tied to the show itself. Ridiculous. Execs should be humiliated by the shock of that realization by the public and laughed at for how ridiculous stuff like this is. ‘Especially’ if it’s being done intentionally. A Country Bear merch cart that ‘doesn’t’ feature or carry any Country Bear merch. How does that make any sense? It doesn’t! Lol
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Tokyo used to have exactly this.

You know, it baffles me how little the bears are merchandised, especially when even the Tiki Room gets more merch.
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

Well-Known Member
Ya know.. I gotta say, and this is something that’s driven me nuts for quite some time. Something I never quite understood was why Disney absolutely refuses to do more overlays and limited holiday overlays for their audio-animatronic shows, when places like Chuck E. Cheese’s & Showbiz Pizza Place back in the day did this easily, across the entire USA, changing the shows every couple-few months. Sometimes they really didn’t have to change the stage layout or outfits or anything all that much either. I’m guessing ludicrous internal company egos/politics at Disney are at fault for this too.
There are huge fandoms now for audio-animatronic shows from lots of companies. Though Disney created/has the far superior originals and I think they really should start to embrace them alot more I think. Again, merchandise them more, market them more, etc. and the people would respond/come, I genuinely believe it. If there are enough people that attend the parades, fireworks shows, etc., more people would come for the audio-animatronics shows too. They just need to be brought up more in park information venues, marketed & merchandised more/properly, etc. and again, as long as the original show are never replaced permanently, and regularly rotate with other/new shows, all would be fine I think. This is why Tokyo’s Bears has done so well for so long now (besides the merchandising out there for them)

I mean, just imagine, say, a Sonny Eclipse Christmas Show with some related merchandise w some LE holiday themed food items to go along with it. Certainly that would do well, yeah? Valentine’s would work wonderfully too. What couple wouldn’t enjoy being serenaded by some fun & memorable characters? Again, just never understood why they never did that, when compared to other entertainment offerings, it’d be simpler to do and could rotate easier long term if programmed into the show computer. Even Valentine’s for the Bears, apparently there had been one planned/thought about, but it sadly never got produced. Wouldn’t even have to cost that much. You don’t need big name country stars or anything. Just look at Henry, the MC bear. He’s just a VA, not some big name actor that costs a lot to re-record for new content. Talented voice actors and a good music composer to do new renditions of public domain songs and such again wouldn’t break the bank too much, I’d say. Keep in mind too, the first Christmas overlay for an attraction ever done was the Country Bear Christmas Special, and it was so successful it led to It’s a Small World Holiday and Haunted Mansion Holiday which are still successful to this day. And of course, as always, the original attractions always return. So, as long as that’s kept under consideration for their AA shows. I feel far more overlays would be welcome (not to mention, lots more Parks merch opportunities).
 
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Brer Panther

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Something I never quite understood was why Disney absolutely refuses to do more overlays and limited holiday overlays for their audio-animatronic shows
There are huge fandoms now for audio-animatronic shows from lots of companies. Though Disney created/has the far superior originals and I think they really should start to embrace them alot more I think. Again, merchandise them more, market them more, etc. and the people would respond/come, I genuinely believe it. If there are enough people that attend the parades, fireworks shows, etc., more people would come for the audio-animatronics shows too. They just need to be brought up more in park information venues, marketed & merchandised more/properly, etc. and again, as long as the original show are never replaced permanently, and regularly rotate with other/new shows, all would be fine I think. This is why Tokyo’s Bears has done so well for so long now (besides the merchandising out there for them)
Maybe it's just a result of the "people don't like attractions that aren't based on pre-existing IPs" mindset? Let's face it, we're probably lucky they just had the Country Bears sing Disney songs instead of tearing the attraction out.
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

Well-Known Member
Gotta say though, atleast when it comes to Disneyland’s. Maybe we ought to start talking about the absolutely questionable quality & execution of “The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh” ride that replaced it. I myself am one of the biggest Winnie the Pooh fans you’d probably meet, but It honest to God makes absolutely ‘zero’ sense at all. It’s baffling it’s lasted as long as it has. It’s a completely & shockingly mixed up version of the Blustery Day story , despite the title being “The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh”…. Alice in Wonderland makes sense, it’s the entire story, but Pooh? Nope. lol! Why wasn’t it called Pooh’s Blustery Escapade or something? Anyway..
It starts off with the narrator talking about Pooh setting out in search of honey (that’s the only time you hear him btw, he’s never heard again), then the following scene, he’s not even reaching up to get honey from a beehive. Then we hit the rain storm scene, (despite in the movie, suppose to be taking place ‘after’ both the Meeting Tigger & Heffalumps and Woozles scene) and then… after the Meeting Tigger & falling fast asleep transition to the Heffalumps and Woozles scene, we see the scene we should’ve seen earlier of Tigger telling Pooh about the Heffalumps and Woozles and that they steal honey, but ‘in’ neon in the Heffalumps and Woozles nightmare scene instead (huh??) and once that starts, apparently, Pooh’s Infact having a “wonderful” dream of eating honey.. (utilizing the same figure we saw in the earlier scene, literally right after it 👀) despite the song throughout the dream clearly sung about how Heffalumps & Woozles ‘steal’ his honey.. The Heck?? and then it ends with… Pooh having a birthday party? Wait, what? So it’s not a Hero Party for Rescuing Piglet in the storm like it should be? Why?? Yeah.. what a wildly mixed up Pooh ride. It’s shockingly bad, hardly gets attendance from my personal experience and doesn’t fit the area at all. How it’s lasted this long, I’m not entirely sure. I guess the simple nostalgia and joy out of seeing the Pooh characters? But man, I sure wish folks would really take a closer look at the wild/nonsensical choices they made with that ride. It’s ‘horrible’. What a dreadful replacement for the Country Bear Jamboree. There ‘were’ two theaters there.. if they wanted Pooh there so desperately, why couldn’t they have simply kept the shop the Crocodile Mercantile and sold Pooh merch there alongside everything else without taking over the store.. and simply put a Pooh show in the second theater? It was already a bear themed theater, yes??

Granted, I would’ve preferred he had a live performer show ala Mickey & the Magical Map in the theater space in Fantasyland with a little Pooh Corner shop nearby, and meet n greets would’ve made far more sense there… but yeah… Aii yaii yaii..
 
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Replace “people” with Executives and I think the results make a lot more sense. Ridiculous.
Theme park fans.... "the only thing executives want is more money!"

So, if that's the case, then the reason they want IP attractions is because IP attractions make more money.

And if IP based attractions make more money, it's because it's what *people* want.
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

Well-Known Member
Theme park fans.... "the only thing executives want is more money!"

So, if that's the case, then the reason they want IP attractions is because IP attractions make more money.

And if IP based attractions make more money, it's because it's what *people* want.
No, it’s so they can stroke their egos while saying that they make more money with objectively lousy choices/decisions to intentionally sabotage Non-Film IP tied attractions ‘they’ don’t like & put in replacements that make no sense/ doing the bare minimum required with the most laughable results when it isn’t neccesary.…

Look carefully at all the decisions made that led to this attraction getting replaced at Disneyland. I detailed it in another thread. Shady moves made, keeping a proven not as popular version of the show running permanently without rotating/switching back to the popular original (they had the data running both the original & Vacation shows in Florida) w mixed up/inconsistent signage & attraction naming ..and not properly merchandising it (which is happening right now as we speak, regarding the merchandising)

Similar things regarding sabotage can be said for the mixed up Honey I Shrunk retheme done to Journey Into Imagination and how shady that was, read that thread, detailed it/provided proof of all of it.
 
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